Maarja,

I too saw the exchanges from Bill and Chris and have *no* idea to what they
referred. Don't you DARE unsubscribe - I think your posts are without
exception thoughtful, insightful, and on more than one occasion, personally
persuasive for me.

When I joined the list it was by my own free will, secure in the knowledge
that my bits of RM awareness would be flotsam in the sea of experience that
forms the membership of the list. Much of that experience deals with
non-RIM-specific stuff, while much of what's left is informed by, and shaped
by, other disciplines.

Everyone who's never done anything else than records management, say so!
<chirping crickets audible in the deafening silence> Many of us have worn
many hats - so far - and as
information/records/knowledge/archival/historical librarianship progresses,
we'll all wear many more.

If Bill has chosen to leave the list, and deprive us of his experience and
him of ours, so be it. We're all big kids here. I didn't find anything to
apologize for in your post, even after going to the list archive and
re-reading it. I think the discussion may be uncomfortable for some - if for
no other reason than its being considered noise compared to the day-to-day
issues RIM programs face. But that's why I'm subscribed to the individual
messages, and I preview them in Outlook, and if it doesn't interest me, I'm
pretty handy with the [Delete] key on my ergonomic keyboard.

So. Speaking only for myself, nothing to apologize for.

Caveat: I'm not a records manager, or an archivist, or a librarian - I'm a
technologist (read: bit-head) and consultant (read: evil). I think the
spectrum of information scientist/knowledge workers/RIM professionals isn't
a line or even a graph but more likely some distorted toroid of skills,
experiences, and training. It's one I enjoy working in (on?) and I
appreciate different perspectives even when they're wrong. OK, OK, I'm
joking! Even when I don't fully appreciate the perspective of the other.

My .03 (fuel costs) on a quiet Colorado Tuesday,

Jesse Wilkins
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Metalinear Media
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>From: Maarja Krusten <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: Records Management Program <[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: interdisciplinary communication
>Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 17:44:57 -0400
<snip>
>(2)  Listservs:  I  increasingly believe that some of the problem lies
>in listservs as a forum.  I received a private, off List message from a
>Recmgmt-L subscriber on Friday, which implied, apparently only half
>jokingly, that perhaps I did not celebrate the 4th of July.  Sigh.
<snip>
>Here's why I'm re-thinking the note from Friday.  Someone else sent me
>a note today, telling me that s/he believed Bill Roach was addressing
>his posting on Time Warner/Iron Warner today to  me.  This is the one
>where he said he was signing off the List.  That person thought that
>the Time Warner/Iron Mountain subject line was mistaken and that Bill
>probably had inadvertently misused it.   Is that the impression others
>got?  I seem to have taken Bill's header at face value, and so assumed
>his discussion of records disclosure, etc. had something to do with
>Iron Mountain.
>
>Rather than be seen as the person who deprived the List of Bill Roach's
>presence (is that what Chris's note to the List meant--sorry, I missed
>that implication, also), perhaps I should leave it (?).  I'm certainly
>willing to unsubscribe if restoring List harmony is perceived as being
>for the common good.  I recognize my style of communication differs
>from that used by many of you.  And I defend archivists perhaps more
>strongly than I should or at least you want to  hear.  My colleagues
>and I at NARA's Nixon Project went through a lot.  More than you'll
>ever know.  I'm just trying to protect good people such as them.  None
>of this was intended to annoy anyone.  You guys have tough jobs, we
>need you, we depend on you and you deserve to have a forum where you
>feel comfortable.
>
>I only started speaking out because I wanted to air out issues such as
>why archival leaders were characterized here on the List recently as
>resorting to character assassination in the U.S. Archivist battle.  And
>why archivists were perceived as whiners.  I believed that was unfair
>and, well, by now you all know I have issues with fairness.
>
>Also, I have a feeling that some historians and government leaders of
>the future are going to come down pretty hard on all of us for some of
>what we were and were not doing in the late 20th century and early 21st
>century.  But, perhaps I have raised questions people do not want to
>discuss here.  If some of you feel you are owed an apology for that, I
>do apologize.
>
>I guess unintentionally we all have created a record of some kind
>during the last week or so with our postings, starting with Barry's
>6/27/05 note about archivists and the Weinstein nomination.  So, maybe
>the historians and leaders of the future will have something to read,
>here on the List archives, about those and other issues at least, after
>all, LOL!
>
>No hard feelings on my end, truly.
>
>Maarja

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