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Re: Local Gov Docs and Libraries
Name/contact person for question: don warner saklad
contact info: [log in to unmask] / 617 661-9650
Date Posted: Tuesday, Jul 12, 2005 @ 07:28 AM / Urgency: anytime
question:
I'm grateful for the acknowledgement by Ann Sparanese.
I'm still interested in a thoughtful responses to my
original enquiry should anyone else get past the allegations.
Regarding Radical Reference Answers for those who question
authority, the radical reference contrarian remarks actually
aren't based on my critique contributed to forums.
The more astute could see that the radical reference
contrarian remarks are based on others' allegations.
It's a good example of failure to recognize the secondary
sources' allegations from the primary source.
I avoid metalevel exchanges and look for directly relevant
replies to my contributions in forums. I respond not to the
metalevel but to the substantive.
A better review of what actually happened would reveal the
uproar not to be on my part.
I don't contribute to uproar on the contrarian remarks to my
contrarian comments.
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To: radicalref at ccwpsandiego.org
Subject: Re: [radicalref] Question: Local Gov Docs and Libraries
From: "James R. Jacobs" <radlib at urbana.indymedia.org>
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 18:09:06 -0500 (CDT)
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As Ann points out, it IS an ongoing fight.
However, I can attest to him being a pest to listservs as I am a
moderator on govdoc-l.
Check out the Don Saklad tribute page for more background on him.
I would agree that this particular question is maybe a bit out of
our scope or ability to answer.
http://www.stormloader.com/saklad/
James
James R. Jacobs
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On Fri, 27 Aug 2004, Ann Sparanese wrote:
> This may be true about this particular person -- but I can
> tell you that it is battle that public libraries *should* be
> fighting.
>
> In our town, for instance, the city refuses to pay to have the
> ordinances professionally indexed and put online.
>
> That means that when people come in for an ordinance, if it's
> not one of those we can locate easily (traffic, property
> maintenance, zoning)or one that the use has a specific citation
> for, it is almost impossible to find it.
>
>
>
> Citizens' only recourse is to go to City Hall where they
> are often treated like pests and they have to go during work
> hours.
>
> They would rather find these things in the libraries.
>
> This is probably true of all reports, etc. generated by
> municipalities and not routinely given to the public library.
>
> All these municipalities, at least in NJ, are governed by
> sunshine laws, that they do their very best to circumvent
> whenever possible.
>
>
>
> However, Mr. Saklund's question itself probably can't
> really be answered unless a research article devoted to this
> question can be uncovered.
>
> It might make a good research project for someone, come to
> think of it.
> Ann Sparanese
> --- Lara <fraterkitty at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Just a word of warning to whoever takes this question,
>> Don Saklad has been on a one person campaign against
>> Boston Public Library for about 8 years now.
>>
>> Lara
>> http://www.celtdigital.org
>> "Security is mostly a superstition. It does not
>> exist in nature... Life is either a daring adventure
>> or nothing. --Helen Keller.
>> --- Ellen Knutson <eknutson at uiuc.edu> wrote:
>>> Takes?
>>>
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>> Name / Alias : don warner saklad
>>>> E-mail : [log in to unmask]
>>>> Phone : 617 661-9650
>>>> Contact preference : email
>>>> How urgent? : next week
>>>> Question? :
>>>> What are reference desks at our north american cities'
>>>> public libraries doing to make available more of their
>>>> respective municipalities departments' current municipal
>>>> public documents?...
>>>>
>>>> Our boston public library government documents division
>>>> declines to advocate for a mayoral directive and for a city
>>>> council order at city hall for more comprehensive
>>>> transmittal to our bpl of city public documents.
>>>>
>>>> Studying our municipal government organization is denied
>>>> citizens even at our public library.
>>>>
>>>> It is not unique to boston.
>>>>
>>>> It is the predicament at many north american cities'
>>>> public libraries.
>>>>
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Subject: Re: [radicalref] Question: Local Gov Docs and Libraries
From: Neal Starkey <nstarkey at tcpl.lib.in.us>
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 11:55:20 -0500
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I don't think we need to waste our time with Don.
He has been harassing library listservs for years.
Most places have blocked him, not because of his politics,
but just because a lot of his posts make no sense or have no
relevancy to the list.
I'm sure he will see it as more proof of the conspiracy against
him but I say ignore him.
just my opinion :^)
neal
> What are reference desks at our north american cities' public
> libraries doing to make available more of their respective
> municipalities departments' current municipal public
> documents?...
>
> Our boston public library government documents division
> declines to advocate for a mayoral directive and for a city
> council order at city hall for more comprehensive transmittal
> to our bpl of city public documents.
>
> Studying our municipal government organization is denied
> citizens even at our public library.
>
> It is not unique to boston.
>
> It is the predicament at many north american cities' public
> libraries.
Where did you hear about us? : word of mouth
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