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Jesse Wilkins <[log in to unmask]>
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Records Management Program <[log in to unmask]>
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Hi Larry and Bernard, 

Of course these are legitimate concerns, as I noted earlier in the thread;
there would certainly be no reason why submissions couldn't be noted either
within the PPT or PDF, or on the wiki site, or both, with the request for
attribution and/or permission. As Larry said, this won't stop the determined
plagiarist any more than the Club will stop a determined car thief. 

For my part, anything I post to the wiki is fair game. I have spoken at a
fair number of ARMA and AIIM chapter events and I make a point of giving
permission to the chapter to use, forward, post, spindle, and mutilate
anything I give them, and I send them the presentation in PPT format. I
figure I can always make more, and most people are at least decent enough to
ask. Your mileage may of course vary. 

Regards, 

Jesse Wilkins
CDIA+, LIT, ICP, edp, ermm, ecms
IMERGE Consulting
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-----Original Message-----
From: Records Management Program [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
Of Bernard Chester
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 8:26 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Call for speakers - Technical Questions on Wiki's

Larry:

I find the same thing annoying.  Acrobat does permit you to secure a PDF and
prohibit printing or copying.  That at least makes it tougher for
plagiarists.

Bernard Chester, CDIA+, ICP
Principal
IMERGE Consulting / PNW Office
7683 SE 27 Street, #316
Mercer Island, WA, 98040
(office) 206-230-9253
(cell) 206-979-7389
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-----Original Message-----
From: Records Management Program [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
Of Larry Medina
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 8:03 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [RM] Call for speakers - Technical Questions on Wiki's

Just a thought here...

While many/most of us don't mind the idea of putting presentations we've
given in a public settings (e.g. a wiki or whatever), if you have the
ability to place a statement somewhere on the presentation saying that it's
YOURS and others should NOT re-use the content without first asking for your
permission, you should consider doing that.

You may also want to consider making a PDF of your presentation and placing
that PDF in the public space instead.  Naturally, anyone with a full version
of Adobe can still hack it and snatch the content, and YES... I realize
anyone who wants to can simply re-type the content and find images here and
there, but no sense making it TOO easy.

Maybe it's just me, but nothing seems to whizz me off much more than going
somewhere and seeing MY PRESENTATION being given by someone else and not
being given credit for it.

Larry



The short answer is they could. The longer answer has several parts. First,
> most wikis (including this one) support change tracking and reversion, 
> so should someone be a jerk and do that, the changes can be rolled back.
> Second, I will be monitoring it quite closely to see how successful it 
> is and will be looking for changes like that. In fact, I have the wiki 
> set to email me with ANY changes made, including a comparison. Third, 
> any changes made are associated with a name or email address, and I 
> could then ban such a person and make them into quite the public 
> pariah. Finally, and most importantly for a project like this, my hope 
> is that so many people will be involved that if anyone changes 
> anything YOU'll see it and fix it or let me know.
>
> If hackers spend enormous time to write SPAM and hack into my computer 
> just for the fun of it, (although now they found out they can have fun 
> and make money from it) won't people go in and alter presentations 
> just to be jerks.
>
> Unless someone polices it, what is the value of something that may be 
> tampered with.




--
Larry Medina
Danville, CA
RIM Professional since 1972

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