Fred,
Thanks for the note. Interesting that in the US, there is an effort to
provide for electronic notarization. There is some info. on the web
regarding electronic notarization.
From everything that I have seen, the greatest challenges on digital
signatures relate to the difficulty in maintaining a digital signature over
time, since even today's PKI standards are apt to change over time.....it
sounds a bit similar to the "migration issues" that we faced with digital
images many years ago. In so far as the evidence indicates, any potential
for fraud exists just as readily in a paper environment with "wet
signatures" as it does in the arena of digital records.......
Doug Allen
-----Original Message-----
From: Grevin, Frederic [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 8:24 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Electronic Signatures
At the Archiving conference held last year by the Society for Imaging
Science and Technology (and co-sponsored by a long list of other groups in
very diverse fields), a presentation by Jean-François Blanchette (a Post-doc
Fellow at the InterPARES Project) offered the statement that "you can have
secure electronic signatures OR long-lived electronic records, but you can't
have both", this due to the effect of migration on the electronic
signatures.
According to Blanchette, who had initially researched the issue for the
French association of notaries (in Europe, notaries have far more importance
than in the US), the association decided as a result of his research to
disallow the use of electronic signatures.
In the New York State, under the Electronic Signatures and Records Act of
1999, electronic signatures are disallowed for several classes of documents,
including "conveyances" of real property.
Best regards,
Fred.
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Frederic J. Grevin
Director, Records and Archives Management The City of New York Department of
Environmental Protection (DEP)
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-----Original Message-----
From: Allen, Doug [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 18:15
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Subject: Re: [RM] Electronic Signatures
The topic of Electronic Signatures and "Digital Signatures" is one that is
undergoing a great deal of discussion in other forums......some of which
deal with the recording of documents affecting rights to property (Deed
Records, etc.). For anyone interested in pursuing additional research in
the area, there are a few Associations of interest, and web sites where
additional information can be located. Here are a couple pointers:
http://www.pria.us
http://www.mismo.org
There has also be substantial debate in this area about the validity of a
digital document (xhtml document) versus the validity of the image of that
document. County Clerks and Recorders throughout the US are struggling to
determine whether they, as the legally recognized source for the retention
of the official copies of such records can or should accept a truly digital
document, or whether they should insist upon the simultaneous receipt of an
image of such documents.
Douglas P. Allen, CRM, CDIA+
Business Development Manager
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Austin, TX 78748
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