RECMGMT-L Archives

Records Management

RECMGMT-L@LISTSERV.IGGURU.US

Options: Use Forum View

Use Monospaced Font
Show Text Part by Default
Condense Mail Headers

Message: [<< First] [< Prev] [Next >] [Last >>]
Topic: [<< First] [< Prev] [Next >] [Last >>]
Author: [<< First] [< Prev] [Next >] [Last >>]

Print Reply
Sender:
Records Management Program <[log in to unmask]>
Subject:
From:
"Angelou, Anne" <[log in to unmask]>
Date:
Wed, 18 May 2005 10:57:45 -0700
MIME-Version:
1.0
Reply-To:
Records Management Program <[log in to unmask]>
Parts/Attachments:
text/plain (107 lines)
I'd like to verify it myself.  I received a Certificate in Private
Investigation a year ago from the University of Washington.  It was
discussed in one of the class lectures on surveillance.  As you may note, I
didn't specify any particular hotel but I'm as curious as you are about
it--when, where and under what circumstances it occurs.  I guess we could
run around the hotel room putting duct tape over any conceivable hiding
place in case it's true.  I'll check with my fellow PI classmates and
licensed investigators (my former instructors).

Anne

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary L. Grieme [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 10:48 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: A Non-Legal Response (Email and Other Surveillance)


>>>>  Please read the confidentiality statement below  <<<<

<Surveillance cameras apparently exist in hotel rooms hidden in overhead
light fixtures, lamps, vents, etc.> In general I agree.  Employers have
valid reasons for surveillance and I would think attempting to change such
laws here in the U.S. would encounter extreme resistance.  Your statement
about hotels surprises me though, can you verify it?

Gary L. Grieme
Records Manager
Robins, Kaplan, Miller & Ciresi L.L.P.
Minneapolis, MN
612-349-8538
[log in to unmask]

>>> [log in to unmask] 5/18/2005 12:38:58 PM >>>
There is no presumption of privacy with use of employer equipment including
computers.  Employee handbooks usually thoroughly cover what is legitimate
use (or not) of equipment (and supplies).  They are also very clear about
what constitutes an ethics violation.  Of course they are concerned about
litigation arising from written communication ("shred those documents, the
auditors are coming"; or "hey baby, how about...." and many other examples
usually uncovered by computer forensics experts).

I am not a lawyer but certain issues are common sense.  Perhaps I am more
sensitive to these issues and better informed because I work for a
government agency.  When staff occasionally say "I'll sue if my supervisor
looks at my email" I refer them to the employee handbook or ask them to call
the PA's office.  What are they hiding?

If all email are work-related (not personal) and don't contain anything
illegal/criminal, LEWD or disrespectful, employees shouldn't be concerned if
it is scrutinized.  Of course, it is normal to wonder or object to routine
monitoring of email which seems like you are being suspected of something.
It is my impression there is "big brother" software that detects key words
and only then is further investigation warranted.

Now "big brother" on your personal home email is another story.  I guess the
only way to be safe is to disconnect your land line and get rid of your cell
phone, throw out your computer (after obliterating all it's electronic
contents), never send a letter, or appear where you can be observed.

As for video surveillance, it exists in elevators at one major City
building.  Several years ago they filmed an employee relieving the City of
several new computers still in the boxes.  He was led away in handcuffs.

Surveillance cameras apparently exist in hotel rooms hidden in overhead
light fixtures, lamps, vents, etc.  Supposedly it is to monitor the
employees so they don't steal guests' belongings, or perhaps to see if they
are working, taking a nap in the bed or taking a bubble bath.  It also can
monitor guests in the bathroom or bed and elsewhere and provide
entertainment for the security staff.  Think about that one.

I once saw a poster that said "Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean
they aren't really out to get you."

Surveillance can be a curse or a blessing depending on your perspective.

Have an interesting, safe and humorous day.

Anne
Records Analyst



__________________________________________________

Information contained in this e-mail transmission is privileged,
confidential and covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18
U.S.C. Sections 2510-2521.

If you are not the intended recipient, do not read, distribute, or reproduce
this transmission.

If you have received this e-mail transmission in error, please notify us
immediately of the error by return email and please delete the message from
your system.

Thank you in advance for your cooperation.

Robins, Kaplan, Miller & Ciresi L.L.P.
http://www.rkmc.com __________________________________________________

List archives at http://lists.ufl.edu/archives/recmgmt-l.html
Contact [log in to unmask] for assistance

List archives at http://lists.ufl.edu/archives/recmgmt-l.html
Contact [log in to unmask] for assistance

ATOM RSS1 RSS2