On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 11:19 PM, Jesse Wilkins <[log in to unmask]>wrote:

> Hi Peter,
>
> <snip>
> I 'respectfully' ask that you enumerate for us the reasons why using an
> email tool such as YG is a horrible way to colloborate since with YG a
> SINGLE email address is used for the sending of messages?
> </snip>
>
> In no particular order, and by no means a complete list:
> - Too many attachments sent to people who don't need them


that is not a problem of Yahoo groups. more of configuration issue or why
use the group to send an attachment to a select group within a  YG?

>
> - Versions of attachments


control issue. something YG was not designed to control up to the YG
owners/moderators


>
> - How to consolidate comments sent in the body of the email, sent as
> marked-up changes to the attachment, sent as NON-marked-up changes to the
> attachment


once again a control and training issue, not a fault of YG


>
> - How to consolidate comments sent to different versions of an attachment


not a YG problem, but I agree that consolidating comments is difficult have
been there many times.

>
> - The siloing of messages to only those involved in the thread (and to only
> those parts of the thread they are involved in, i.e. sent or received)


if you are using the YG address to send messages then there is no siloing.
Siloing occurs when members of a YG group decide to discuss amongst
themselves outside of the YG
all members of the YG receive the message when the message is sent to YG
address. It is up to the members to stay on top of the threads


>
> - The difficulty of managing comments in messages and individual users'
> inboxes

???? how is this a YG

>
> - The relative difficulty of accessing messages, attachments, and comments
> while away from your desk/computer (in other words, with a wiki I can
> review
> and potentially edit using my iPhone; I can't do that with email because my
> corporate Exchange makes it difficult to sync my iPhone and in many
> organizations it isn't allowed at all)


not  a problem of YG, that is a problem for the user. how they manage their
time, just because I have  the tools doesn't mean that i have to be
connected 24/7/365 (even though it seems it). do I always answer my phones?
and I say phones since i have 4 phone lines it all depends. the phone is
their for my convenience.


> - Some people cannot access YG from their work - any messages from a
> yahoo.com account or any messages sent on behalf of a person (as lists and
> YG are) get blocked


and that is a problem for which the individual needs to work with their IT
group and management to explain why they need access during business hours
via work equipment. If management won't budge then the individual needs to
find a work around e.g. is gmail accessible via work? if so then you have
your YG mail going to the gmail account and you access the YG website etc
after hours from home.


thanks for the discussion


Peter Kurilecz CRM CA
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