This is a really interesting conversation, and it makes me wonder
about all the hidden metadata that will be stored on the "cloud."
While all those clouds may be siloed, the owners or service providers
(or specifically their machines) will conceivably have access to all
the data.  So if Amazon provides cloud services for the government,
they will have lots of extraneous info too.  And Microsoft seems to
have interesting ideas for the future as well.
http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/05/video-microsoft-attempts-to-predict-the-future/

If they store all this data on the cloud as efficiently as possible,
how will we know that the records or digital assets (or their
metadata) haven't been compressed or encrypted or compromised in some
way before it's too late?

David Kay, MLS

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Ken Fontana <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> I recently delivered a seminar to a group of records storage operations in
> Illinois and the speaker prior to me was a gentlemen who works with various
> Federal internet task forces.  Talk about enlightening.
>
> Doing my best from memory, here's the gist.  Google caches a ton of
> information everyday and, although you may have your Facebook & Myspace
> settings set to private, more often than not, one can use that Cache link on
> Google searches to pull up info you thought was hidden.  His example was
> status and date of birth.  There are quite a few websites available that,
> with the name and date of birth, will give you the exact drivers license
> numbers as all states use a computer algorithm to assign license numbers
> based on that info.
>
> What really scared me was the fact that most modern digital cameras
> including the handy dandy iPhone embed a ton of information onto the photo's
> they take and that information includes the GPS location of the photo.  Like
> above, there are several websites that you can pull up and put in the link
> to that photo and it will render the data from the photograph instantly for
> anyone and for free!
>
> So, in short, if someone can get to a photo you took with a comment like "Me
> and the dog in the back yard" they can get your address, they can use Google
> Earth or, where possible, real life photo's of your house on Google maps and
> scout your residence, they can get your drivers license number and if that
> photo shows your cars in the driveway your license plate numbers as well.
>  All of those are nice to have when you post out on Facebook that you're in
> Costa Rica enjoying your vacation.  He drove the point home by telling us
> all that he and the rest of the cops didn't just snoop around and figure all
> this out.........they got there by interviewing criminals to find out how
> they were going about their crimes.
>
> I also learned the hard way about another big area of concern and that is
> the new "Real ID" mess that is sweeping the country.  In order for me to get
> my new drivers license I had to go to the clerk's office where I was born to
> secure a "state certified" birth certificate (although I was at the DMV with
> my original birth certificates, my county property tax records, utility
> bill, social security card....even had my library card).
>
> Upon reaching the clerks office, I filled out a form that requested my full
> name, date of birth, parents names and a single piece of mail with my name
> on it (no, that's not a joke, any letter was fine).  I gave that form, $4.00
> and my water bill to the gal behind the counter and received my state
> certified birth certificate!  With that, I obtained my new photo ID and
> Drivers License......
>
> We cannot live in a society where we keep ourselves panicked and paranoid
> but, at the same time, sooner or later, we're all going to have to become
> quite a bit more careful about the "data" we're posting out to the world for
> free.
>
>
> Ken Fontana
> President
> Fontana Insurance Solutions
> /~Integrity and Honesty Are Not Out of Style........They Are My Calling
> Cards~/
>
> On 5/10/2010 4:12 PM, Larry Medina wrote:
>>>
>>> I came across an interesting article in yesterday's NY Times about social
>>>
>>
>> media that among other things made the following statement:
>>
>>>
>>> "Mistrust of the intentions of social sites appears to be pervasive."
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Obviously, this signals a new GenY attitude when it comes to information
>> placed by users "into the wild"
>>
>> The article, the report and a PEW report issued all are quite interesting,
>> and reading through them they focus largely on individuals views of
>> personal
>> information placed there by themselves or their 'friends' (to borrow a
>> Facebook term).  They have some new found concerns about visibility and
>> 'perceived privacy' about information on the Internet, and in the case of
>> a
>> couple of people, would like to close Pandora's Box and take control of,
>> or
>> potentially discard it's former contents.
>>
>> But when you look at the data and see how few people (regardless of age
>> group) have bothered to read the TOS, Privacy Policy, or whatever it's
>> called and if you recall all the hub-bub that occurred between in Nov-Dec
>> 2009 and sort of continued through Apr 2010 http://bit.ly/a5ze8y you'll
>> recall the OUTRAGE, but similarly the lack of people stating "I'm outta
>> here" and closing their accounts.
>>
>> Part of it was, well, if you closed your accounts then, they STILL HAD
>> your
>> information... and also as many are aware, there's no way to COPY OR PORT
>> YOUR INFORMATION anywhere else.  http://bit.ly/cVeHja (see refs. 156-163)
>>
>> The other part is many users didn't/don't take it seriously... after all,
>> it's facebook... right?   A lot of people (especially those who are
>> involved
>> in some aspect of RIM, Compliance, Privacy, Info Governance, etc) all know
>> what you do and don't choose to put out there for others to see, and for
>> the
>> most part **WE DO READ** the TOS, Privacy Policy etc, including changes.
>>
>> As for the  rest of the users?  If they choose not to, then their content
>> is
>> fair game... if those users include your personal friends, children,
>> family
>> members... then it's up to YOU to inform them, and up to them to decide to
>> accept your advice or not.  And if they don't, well, they can remain your
>> friends, but you may want to think twice about them remaining your
>> 'Facebook
>> friends".
>>
>>
>>>
>>> One does wonder if the various social media vendors has a records
>>>
>>
>> management program and if they do how would such a program apply to the
>> data
>> posted by their users?
>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Thinking about this question late 2009 also signaled some changes as to
>> how
>> and who was using Facebook.  More and more organizations, institutions,
>> businesses, non-profits, etc all decided they wanted to have a presence on
>> Facebook and began setting up pages and 'campaigns' to get people to
>> "like"
>> them.  Even Federal Agencies, States, Cities, etc all joined the
>> bandwagon... most without thinking of the issues such as who owns the
>> content, what content is out there, who can do what with it, what happens
>> if
>> it becomes inaccessible, gets hacked, etc.
>>
>> NOW... thinking about David's question.  Do the various social media
>> vendors
>> have RM Programs?  Probably not "programs", but they may have information
>> governance models and policies, and those would apply primarily to THEIR
>> INFORMATION and RECORDS and how IT is managed.
>>
>> As for the second part of the question. How does it apply to their users
>> data?  My gut reaction is IT DOESN'T.  The "Facebook Principles" and
>> "Statement of Rights and Responsibilities" explain pretty clearly that
>> they
>> have no responsibility for what users place out there, and that the user
>> assumes all responsibility for the content... and if it disappears,
>> well...
>> so be it.
>>
>> I think David's further example of a "quit claim deed" being filed on any
>> 'intellectual property' posted on these sites was relatively accurate.
>>
>> Larry
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