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Hi Graham, 

Good points all - but I would note that that figure for AIIM Los Angeles
includes paid Professional members as well as unpaid Associate members, who
have basically opted in to receive AIIM communications. By way of example,
the AIIM Rocky Mountain Chapter has around 110 paid members and another 900
or so Associate members. 

AIIM's paid professional membership last I heard was around 4,000. Including
the unpaid Associates, AIIM claims around 60,000. 

Regards, 

Jesse Wilkins
CDIA+, LIT, ICP, edp, ermm, ecms
IMERGE Consulting
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-----Original Message-----
From: Records Management Program [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
Of Graham Kitchen
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 8:40 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: archival principles

As I was talking to my Ear, Nose, Throat and Belly-button specialist the
other day, he said to me "You know, sometimes I think that we break things
down too far.... There are just too many specialties."

We are all part of a profession that is attempting (and in many cases, doing
a good job) to manage and control information.  If we know the basics of
everything and then specialize in what we do best, we could all relate to
what other "specialists" do.

Some are very good in the Archival field, others are good at legal research
for retention or compliance, still others are good at IT issues.

This is why I love this list.  It has everything covered.  Thank you all for
your input.

On another point,  Why is it that ARMA has only (about) 10,000 members,
while AIIM has about 1500 members in the LA Chapter alone?

Are we really doing everything possible to advance our profession?  What
else can we do?

GT

Graham Kitchen
Corporate Records Manager
Unified Western Grocers
5200 Sheila Street
Commerce, California 90040
Telephone:  (323)264-5200 Extension 4560
Cell:  (323)243-1865
email:  [log in to unmask] 

 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Records Management Program
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of John J. O'Brien
> Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 3:21 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: archival principles
> 
> You ask, "What is your opinion and/or practice, the archival 
> principles are aplied to records management issues"?
> 
> Could you give more of an angle of inquiry?  This is a very big topic, 
> and one that differs greatly when taken from the philosophical base of 
> the US model versus the Canadian, and European which have influenced 
> Asian models.
> 
> In my personal philosophy (and put too simply here) archives is 
> integral to recorded information management. There are specializations 
> as in any domain, and there is differentiation within the domains.
> However, I do
> not personaly subscribe to the idea that information managment domains 
> are well served by differentiation at senior levels.  It is necessary 
> for competency at journeymen levels, but a synthisis and over-arching 
> grasp of the meaning of information resources through time is critical 
> at senior decision making levels of organizations. Often, archives is 
> approached as a quasi (and out of touch) library function and RM is 
> approached as a clerical and warehousing function.  Both domains waste 
> their potential in this way. But one can roll along a long time like 
> that!
> 
> You may be interested in developments in knowledge resource managmeent 
> and intellectual capital assessment (not IP, per se).  Metadata 
> definition and conceptual work in the complex array of values is also 
> an exciting area.
> 
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