Doug,

I agree with you and have already voted with my feet. During our last re-organization I asked to join our IT department and it was approved. I found them to be a very welcoming group (granted, we are a small company and all knew each other already for years). But now rather than trying to meet with them on issues, I am in there already. We now talk about issues as a normal course of our everyday work life. And it is working out very well.

I understand that this may not be possible for everyone, because of your size and organizational setup. Also, egos of department heads might get in the way. (In my case, egos were "left at the door.") But Doug's points should be very well taken by anyone who wishes to integrate themselves (RIM) more completely into their organization's operations.

Gary Link, CRM
Pittsburgh, PA

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From: Doug Smith [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 10:08 AM
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Subject: Re: [RM] Something that made me go hmmm ...

While Fred's point is well taken, it is missing a critical point of focus for program credibility.  Why is Legal talking to IT?  C-Level leadership believes that IT should be involved.  No one questions this.  

Why do we face the question?  Records managers have been around much longer than the electronic technology we use to manage records.  

We need to change the perception that we are separate.  IT has an important role to play in effective information management, as does legal, AS DOES RECORDS.  By integrating ourselves into the iformation structure, rather than holding ourselves separate, we are much better positioned to be at the only table that matters.  

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