Hi Graham,
I thought I would weigh in on this, since I am a CRM and an instructor for the AIIM ERM classes. The ERM designation is currently only valid for five years.
The comments so far have been right on. Employers may or may not be aware of the differences between the CRM and the ERM, but both are an indication that a certain level of knowledge has been met.
Are the two equal - no, they are not - not even close. If employers are not aware of the difference, it is up to us, the ICRM, and ARMA to help them understand.
Isn't this one of the goals of the ARMA Competency program?
Charmaine Brooks, CRM (and ERMm)
IMERGE Consulting, Inc.
(208) 343-1904
Graham Kitchen <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
I think that Jesse Wilkins is the person to answer this. Waddaya say Jesse?
On 9/22/07, Peter Kurilecz
wrote:
>
> On 9/20/07, Cunningham, Ray wrote:
>
> > Today I read a job posting requesting AIIM's ERM certificate. While not
> > required, it states CRM and/or ERM or advanced progress toward
> > certification preferred. This is the first one I have seen. I am
> > wondering what the acceptance level is of AIIM's training? Has anyone
> > else seen ERM/ECM in job postings?
>
>
> I am starting to see more job postings requesting the AIIM
> certificates also. My concern is that the employers do not understand
> the difference between the CRM designation and the AIIM certificate
> programs.
>
> While I have looked briefly at the AIIM certificates I have not seen
> anything that about this program that says the certificates have a
> limited lifespan ie this certificate good/valid for 2, 3 or 5 years
> then retesting is required. Nor have I seen anything that says that
> holders of these certificates must obtain continuing
> education/certification maintenance points in order to stay current.
>
> I know that both the Institute of Certified Records Managers and the
> Academy of Certified Archivists require that members obtain x hours of
> "continuing education" during a 5 year cycle or lose their
> certification. I know that other certification programs also require
> this.
>
> Don't get me wrong I think that the AIIM program has some value to the
> profession, but I don't see where they are the equivalent of the ICRM
> program. If I'm wrong would someone please point out how the AIIM
> certificates are equivalent to the CRM program.
>
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