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According to the SJSLIS website, the fees for the San Jose Executive 
MLIS, which is taught online and essentially similar in design to the 
upcoming online MARA degree are listed as follows:

"Executive MLIS students will be classified as Special Session 
students and will select the "off-campus" option on the CSU Mentor 
online application form. Fees for Executive MLIS courses through 
Special Session are $399 per unit, $1,197 per course, or $16,758 for 
the degree."

I don't believe the cost will be over $2000 a course. If you have a 
question, please contact Lori Lindberg by going to the following 
website and completing the email form: 
http://slisweb.sjsu.edu/email/email.php?fac=lindberg  She is the one 
who designed the program and can provide the correct information.

Pat

______________________________
Patricia C. Franks, Ph.D., CRM


----- Original Message -----
From: Matthew Hebert <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Thursday, October 18, 2007 11:48 am
Subject: Re: [RM] Transitioning from archivist to records manager--
Benefits of MSIM degree?
To: [log in to unmask]

> Thanks to all for replying:
> 
>    I too have looked at San Jose State's soon-to-be accredited 
> Masters of
> Archives and Records Administration.  It looks very convenient 
> since it's
> offered online.  However, when I looked at the prospective course 
> titles and
> captions, it seemed to me that much of the program covers areas of 
> archivaladministration and practice that I have just finished 
> learning in my
> previous MLIS/MA Public History joint degree program.  So for my 
> personalsituation, this program seems a bit redundant (and as Stephen
> Smith mentioned, pricey).
> 
>  I'm still on the fence about what would be the best program for my
> situation and career goals, but it's looking like either the MSIM 
> or the
> MBA.  Per an off-line suggestion, I'm planning to join my local 
> ARMA chapter
> and solicit some advise from people in my area.
> 
> 
>  Elizabeth Fairfax:
> I am considering this as a "in-route" to a more lucrative RM 
position,
> possibly in the private/corporate sector.  Looking at ARMA conference
> vendors and the price of their classes, it seems like this sector 
> (or the
> federal govt.) might be the only one that would be able to invest 
> the kind
> of resources needed to stay at the forefront of all the newest 
> technologiesand best practices.
> 
> Also I'm interested in not only learning more about archives and 
> recordsmanagement, but also management of people, resources and 
> general management
> theory.  Given your take on the way the public sector compensates 
> recordsmanagement positions for education beyond the requirements, 
> as opposed to
> the way the private sector does, I'll keep my eye open for 
> openings in the
> private sector.
> 
> You are right in assuming that the M.A. Public History has so far 
> orientedme toward the public sector.  But in this regard, I often 
> hear that
> background experience in the public sector is a pretty common path 
> towardmore lucrative private sector jobs, especially in respect to 
> the trends of
> privatization and increased efficiency in government though 
> outsourcing to
> private contractors.
> 
> 
> Nicole Williams:
> Thanks for starting this line of questioning with your thread about
> the J.Dvs. Masters of Legal Studies.  At one point I too had 
> looked at
> the Legal
> Studies degree but I'm not so committed to working in a law firm
> necessarily, and for me the MSIM or MBA seem to have a broader 
> scope and
> wider opportunities.
> 
> 
> Finally, I'm not sure what the ratio is on this listserv regarding 
the
> number of students and recent graduates to established 
> professionals.  I
> suspect it is lower than on other listservs I subscribe to in 
> archives and
> library science, which another off-line poster attributed to the 
> relativenovelty of formal education programs in records 
> management.  So thanks to
> all for your input and patience!
> 
> Matt Hebert
> 
> On 10/17/07, Stephen A. Smith <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> > Matt:
> >
> > I also stopped by the SJSU table at the ARMA conference.  I am very
> > interested in the MARA degree once it is accredited in early 
> 2008.  I am
> > very interested in what course content will be offered.  Chris 
> mentioned> no
> > residency requirements and courses being offered electronically. 
> This is
> > a
> > great offer since I live in PA, but there are additional fees 
> for living
> > out of state.  According to their website, there is an 
> additional fee of
> > $339 per unit for non-residents.  That will essentially double 
> the cost
> > per
> > class from about $1,000 per 3 credit hours to over $2,000.  Not 
> cheap by
> > any means, but depending on the course offerings, it may be 
> worth it.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Stephen A. Smith, MLIS, CDIA+
> > Records Manager
> > QVC, Inc. Information Services
> > Phone - (484) 701-1559
> > Fax - (484) 701-1984
> > [log in to unmask]
> >
> >
> >
> >             Chris Olson
> >             <chris@CHRISOLSON
> >             .COM>                                                
>      To
> >             Ext:                      [log in to unmask]
> >             Sent by: Records                                     
>      cc
> >             Management
> >             Program                                              
> Subject
> >             <[log in to unmask]         Re: Transitioning from 
> archivist to
> >             UFL.EDU>                  records manager--Benefits 
> of MSIM
> >                                       degree?
> >
> >             10/16/2007 05:55
> >             PM
> >
> >
> >             Please respond to
> >                  Records
> >                Management
> >                  Program
> >             <[log in to unmask]
> >                 UFL.EDU>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Matt!
> >
> > Take a look at the San Jose State University SLIS site. They're
> > gearing up to offer a Masters in Archives and Records 
Administration
> > (MARA).  They had a table at the ARMA conference and were saying 
> this> new program would begin in 2008, there' no state residency
> > requirements, and courses will be offered electronically. Might be
> > worth investigating.. http://slisweb.sjsu.edu/index.htm
> >
> > The person guiding the program through accreditation is Lori
> > Lindberg, [log in to unmask]
> > http://slisweb.sjsu.edu/people/faculty/lindbergl/lindbergl.php
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > Chris
> > .......................................
> > Chris Olson, M.L.S., M.A.S.
> > Marketing Consultant to Information Providers
> >
> > 410.827.5642  |  [log in to unmask]
> > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
> > Chris Olson & Associates  |  http://www.chrisolson.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Oct 16, 2007, at 4:01 PM, Matthew Hebert wrote:
> >
> > > Hello list,
> > >
> > >     I'm a first time poster, but long time lurker ever since
> > > subscribing to
> > > the list for a Records Management course in grad school as 
> part of
> > > a joint
> > > MLIS/MA Public History program.  Currently, I'm a new 
> archivist for
> > > a state
> > > department of transportation agency, albeit with many records
> > > management
> > > duties.  However, I eventually (within the next 5 years or so) 
> want to
> > > officially become a records manager.
> > >
> > >   Michelle asked about the benefits of a J.D or Masters of Legal
> > > Studies in
> > > an earlier post and I was intrigued with the many responses.  
What
> > > about the
> > > benefits of a Masters of Science in Information Management 
> degree?  Is
> > > anyone familiar with such a program?  If so I would be very
> > > interested in
> > > any feedback, on or off the listserv.  The program I am heavily
> > > considering
> > > is at Arizona State University:
> > > http://wpcarey.asu.edu/is/evening_msim/MSIM.cfm
> > >
> > >   I've been told by many that you can't go wrong with an MBA 
> degree no
> > > matter what field you are pursuing.  This MSIM program seems 
> to me
> > > to be
> > > similar to an MBA, but tailored to IT and therefore better 
> suited for
> > > jumpstarting a records management career.
> > >
> > >   I realize there is really no substitute for solid experience 
> in the
> > > records management field.  However, would completing this degree
> > > program be
> > > useful down the line, while I continue to gather experience to
> > > qualify to
> > > take the CRM exam?  Does it seem "worth it"?
> > >
> > >   If anyone on the list has any more suggestions for 
transitioning
> > > from the
> > > archives to the records management field, I would like to hear 
> them.> >
> > >
> > > Matt Hebert
> > > Archivist, ADOT Right of Way Records Center
> > > Phoenix, AZ
> > >
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