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Gerry McFatridge <[log in to unmask]>
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Records Management Program <[log in to unmask]>
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Stephanie McCutcheon in high dudgeon said:
 
>>To compare the current times/situation to what went on behind the Iron
Curtain is absurd.

Well...at least in regards to our developing surveillance society many
educated,informed people would disagree. And as B. (as in Benjamin)
Franklin (wise Founding Father and all around great guy - gotta love a
guy who wrote essays on flatulence!)famously said "Those who value
security over freedom deserve neither".

>>Reminds me of the idiots who compared the chain link fence we used to
have
>>on the border in San Diego with the Berlin Wall.

Personally, I never refer to folks whose opinions I disagree with as
idiots but that's just my style. Others have different styles.

>>Review your history 

I'm not a historian but I do have a poli-sci degree with a focus on
Soviet satellite republics (which was of interest to me partly because
my mother's side of my family is from the former country of
Czechoslovakia). So I do know at least a little bit about life in the
former eastern bloc and the ideals/motives/operation of the governments
of many of those nations. Plus...I stayed in a Holiday Inn last
weekend!!

>>and leave politics off the list.

But my comments actually were list related - can't have all this
surveillance without good RIM practices now can you?. 

The Stasi were excellent records managers/keepers - seriously. And since
the Bundestag passed the Stasi Records Law in the early 1990's which
opened up the Stasi's files a few million people have been actually been
able to view the files that had been created about them. So they must
have had good RIM practices. Wonder what their retention schedule for
individual's file's were - life plus 50 years?

Finally, this thread was clearly labeled as off-topic and you should
either learn to filter out such threads in your email app (perhaps
create a simple rule to look for the "OT") or just hit the delete key.


Have a good weekend,
    Gerry






-----Original Message-----
From: Records Management Program [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf Of Gerry McFatridge
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 11:34 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [RM] Text messages - OT

 I don't know that we have ever had an explicit right to privacy when
surfing the web per se, however, since King George II has decided that
he can ignore parts of the Constitution he finds "inconvenient" it does
appear that we are continuing our journey into an old Soviet-style
surveillance society. I imagine there is more than one former Stasi
agent who looks at the changes in the USA the past 7 years and just
smiles as he fondly remembers the "good old days" in his former country.

Gerry



-----Original Message-----
From: Records Management Program [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf Of Charles Childress
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 12:09 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Text messages

"SkyTel, the Mississippi-based company that provided text devices to the
city, confirmed the existence of messages to the Free Press."

At one time we all had a legal right to privacy when we were surfing the
web, speaking on the phone or going to the public library or a book
store.  But (not withstanding the 4th amendment) that was before spying
on American citizens became a political tool.

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