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On Jun 26, 2013, at 8:29 PM, "Andrew Warland" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> I work for a (major business unit - aged and childrens care) of the Uniting
> Church here in Australia. I developed extensive records retention schedules
> for all our business records which are, in many respects, not much
> different from any other business. We have around 150 separate pieces of
> Federal and State legislation we have to abide by, making it a complex
> organisation. Parts of the broader organisation have some very old records,
> some of which we are now scanning to have a back up in case of disaster, as
> well as to provide a much more convenient form of access.
>
> I haven't yet got to the specific church/parish/congregation records yet
> but note that records of births, deaths and marriages are managed by the
> State Government. What would be left would be meetings of the
> church/parish/congregation and they generally seem to have been kept for a
> long time. When my mother died, for example, the minister was able to say
> that the records showed that, when she was married in the same church 60
> years earlier, the minister at the time noted that the family had been
> connected with (and was involved in building) the church 100 years earlier
> - in the late 1840s.
>
> Andrew Warland
> Information Architect, Document and Records Management
> UnitingCare NSW.ACT
> Sydney
> Australia
> (My views entirely)
>
> On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 9:00 AM, Mike Intranuovo <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
>
>> Wow! Thanks for all the info and entertaining commentary. It makes sense
>> that churches would have to abide by the same rules and regulations as
>> everyone else. It's also interesting to consider those records that would
>> be governed by church law/policy. I think the guidelines that Tom pointed
>> out do a pretty good job of identifying business records opposed to
>> church/religious records. Well, I'm glad I asked; I learned a lot, and I
>> appreciate all the input. Thanks again!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 6:16 PM, Larry Medina <[log in to unmask]
>>> wrote:
>>
>>> What is it they say about things "carved in stone" ??
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ah-WdAwVg9c
>>>
>>> And I understand destruction services were provided by "Burning Bush,
>> Inc."
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 2:32 PM, John Montana <
>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Which simply illustrates that the principles of information governance
>>> are
>>>> truly timeless.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Gordy Hoke wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> But, John, as you have heard me say: Moses, being a good records
>>>>> manager, had a disaster recovery hot spot at the ready. After
>> smashing
>>> the
>>>>> tablets, he went back up Mt. Sinai to get a backup copy. We still
>> call
>>> it
>>>>> "backup" today.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Some, such as the 10 Commandments, would strictly speaking have been
>>>>> enrolled copies of enacted legislation, and should thus have come
>> under
>>> the
>>>>> agency of the Israelite State Archives Agency, and been placed in the
>>> State
>>>>> Archives. Until, that is, Moses implemented his records disposition
>>> policy
>>>>> in respect of them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Makes shredding seem positively tame, doesn't it?
>>>>> J.
>>>> **
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