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I know of no reports from contemporary users (AKA scribes) of alterations or
degradations occurring in the baking process, PROVIDING it is executed
correctly (check with your local potter for details). 

Fred.
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Frederic J. Grevin
Director, Records and Archives Management
The City of New York
Department of Environmental Protection (DEP)
59-17 Junction Blvd., 11th floor
Flushing, NY 11373-5108
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Phone: (718) 595-4372
Fax:  (718) 595-4387


-----Original Message-----
From: Cunningham, Ray [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 12:21
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Subject: Re: [RM] A Lesson in Records Management

Yes but can I trust the data in the baking process? Could not there be some
alteration or degradation in the baking process?

Ray

-----Original Message-----
From: Records Management Program [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
Of Grevin, Frederic
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 11:18 AM
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Subject: Re: [RM] A Lesson in Records Management

Sorry, Bill, the "only completely proven media for record storage" is NOT
cave walls, but baked clay tablets (MUST be baked, not sun-dried).

I propose a new technology : Computer Output to Baked Clay Tablet. Let's
start creating some International Standards for the medium ...	;-)

Also, assuming by "cave walls" you refer to the paintings on the walls of
various European caves, those are considerably more than a few thousand
years old (recent radiocarbon dating yields 13,000 to 15,000 years for
Altamira, Spain).

Best regards,

Fred.
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Frederic J. Grevin
Director, Records and Archives Management The City of New York Department of
Environmental Protection (DEP)
59-17 Junction Blvd., 11th floor
Flushing, NY 11373-5108
E-mail: [log in to unmask]
Phone: (718) 595-4372
Fax:  (718) 595-4387


-----Original Message-----
From: Roach, Bill J. [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 17:02
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Subject: Re: [RM] A Lesson in Records Management

 >>I've seen and heard enough about potential data loss on CDs to be a bit
reluctant to trust CD as a medium.<<

I don't recommend them, I recommend film.  However, I just couldn't resist
the chance to point out that film LE is as much an estimate as CD LE.
And,
as I have said before, the only completely proven media for record storage
is cave walls, and they only go back a few thousand years.

Bill R

Bill Roach, CRM
Enterprise EDMS Coordinator
State of North Dakota
ITD/Records Management
701-328-3589

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