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Peter wrote:
<the problem started with the development of EDMS (electronic
document management systems), the ERMS (electronic records management
system) came along later. as a result we have the never ending discussion
of when does a document become a record since in an ECM system if a
document is declared a record the content is locked and can't be changed.>
 
This is exactly the point and one of the things Leigh Isaacs and I have been addressing in our presentations.  However, I think it misses the point that, we can no longer talk about records without the documents or data.  It does no good to have a records retention/disposition policy without addressing the non-records.  
 
If your policy does not address the data/documents in the records lifecycle prior to the records stage, you will not be prepared for litigation or even more probably, accurate classification as records.  Your information management/retention & disposition policy needs to address the entire records lifecycle from creation to disposition.
 
To address Stephanie's second question:
 
Managing content, record or not, is the job of the records & information manager.

Doug Smith, ECMp
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From: Peter Kurilecz <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 7:56 PM
Subject: Re: Documents vs Records

part of the problem is that attorneys continue to refer to documents not
records. they call it a document retention schedule while everyone else
calls it a records retention schedule.
additionally Not something we ever had to worry about in the paper only days

On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 6:02 PM, Dwight WALLIS <[log in to unmask]>wrote:

> Stephanie, record series and document series are one and the same,
>

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