Hugh,

There actually is big grassroots effort to compile data on gun deaths in
the US, not necesarilly by Records Managers -
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/crime/2012/12/gun_death_tally_every_american_gun_death_since_newtown_sandy_hook_shooting.html

On an off-topic note, I highly suggest "Killing Monsters:Why Children Need
Fantasy, Super Heroes, and Make-Believe Violence" by Gerard Jones
(http://www.amazon.com/Killing-Monsters-Children-Make-Believe-Violence/dp/0465036961)
for a non-scientist summary of studies and research done on the effects of
voilent media (movies and video games) on violent action, particularly
among children.
-Christopher Ferry, CRM
ASRC Primus
OSRR Records and Information Center
US EPA Region 1
Boston, MA

Opinions expressed above are my own and do not represent ASRC Primus or US
EPA
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Hugh Smith <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> It would be helpful if people would not politicize these issues based on
> political beliefs but instead try to develop an effective solution.
>
> In these shootings we often find that the people involved were disturbed
> and they also had access to very violent shooter games and often watched
> violent movies.
>
> So it is a matrix of things that seems to be an indicator of future
> behavior.  As records managers, it should be simple to create a recipe and
> keep records of those people who have seen X number of violent movies.  (We
> should create something more effective than PG-13 and R. If you have 10
> killings then it is R-10. Anyone under 18 should not be able to see more
> than an R-1. )  So again records management could track the number of
> violent scenes and once a person had attended X number of violent scenes
> and owned a shooter game, that person would be brought in for counseling
> and all weapons removed from their household.
>
> Again, vandalism and outbursts in school foretell violent outbursts, so
> once a student starts to develop a rap sheet of sorts, they would be
> brought in for counseling and all guns removed from their homes.
>
> Guns don’t shoot people, people shoot people.  In fact, last year in over
> 2,500 situations, a citizen with a carry or concealed handgun permit
> stopped a shooter and saved lives.   But apparently there are no records
> managers keeping track of this; or the Press refuses to track the effects.
>
> As a point of records keeping news, England has 3.5 times more violent
> crime than the U.S. on a per capita basis  and they have strict guns laws.
> So gun laws are not the solution unless they are tied into reining in
> Hollywood.  I think locking Tarrantino is in order since he is the leader
> of the violence is good fraternity.  Make it illegal to show actual
> violence in movies.  Go back to the Hitchcock approach where you only
> imagine it.
>
> But it seems that a group of 2,000 records managers could pull together
> the appropriate statistics on all sides to suggest an intelligent solution.
>  The most dangerous thing in the world is congested cities so we should
> disperse people to the country.  Eliminate the ghetto as we know it.  ( I
> know we cannot do that but why not discuss how we could have some impact.
>  I bet more kids are killed in DC and NYC every year than happened in
> Connecticut.  Where is the records manager to track this? Why is killing
> these kids not an issue?)
>
> The same people that want to gather up every gun thinks that movies and
> gaming that are extremely violent has no effect on their kids. Movies do
> have an effect on your thoughts. After seeing “Man on Fire” and “Taken” I
> could barely stand to see my kids walk out the door.  I spent a fortune on
> pizza and taking kids out to dinner to keep my daughter and her friends
> under my watchful eye for as many hours as I could make happen.
>
> I watched Roy Rogers shoot the gun out of the hand of the bad guy or the
> Lone Ranger catch them with his lasso.  None of those made me want to be
> violent. Anything more violent than Mongo in “Blazing Saddles” should be
> banned.
>
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