ok lets try this again here is the link to the Pike & Fischer survey http://www.magnetmail1.net/ls.cfm?r=3727480&sid=740766&m=131611&u=PikeFis ch&s=http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.asp?u=63791388419 http://shrinkster.com/8yo Peter A. Kurilecz Richmond, Va [log in to unmask] List archives at http://lists.ufl.edu/archives/recmgmt-l.html Contact [log in to unmask] for assistance