So how much is enough?

GED?high school diploma file clerk etc.

Prevailing wage

High school diploma//AA

A little more than prevailing wage

BA/BS (no RM calsses)/ no certificates entry level management

35,000+

BA/BS RM classes

50,000+

MA
60,000+

Folks that have a CRM should maybe add an extra 10,000 to the base

Folks that have achived both a CRM and CA probably should seek professional 
help.

Folks that have achieved a PHD should probably deduct 20,000 from the base 
because they are doing this out of sheer love of doing it (in other wods 
they might already be beyond help).



Chris Flynn






>From: "Cunningham, Ray" <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: Records Management Program <[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Job posting of interest
>Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 13:04:24 -0500
>
>Let's get down to the basics - show me the money.
>
>Where should the salaries be? It will vary greatly depending on your
>location [legal disclaimer] but what should we expect? Given the surveys
>and watching the postings I think we should be somewhere near this for
>offerings.
>
>CRM and a degree $58 - 70,000
>CRM and Master's level $64 - 75,000
>
>Years of experience would matter and certainly the supervisory
>experience and the other skills required or perhaps the nature of the
>industry. Education less and Pharmaceuticals or legal would pay more for
>example. A new program might require more experience or a new CRM with
>say five years might command less but in terms of the offering I think
>those ranges are close.
>
>Anything under $50k for a CRM for me is a problem and when employers
>call me I tell them such. Sometimes they will fudge and post the job as
>"CRM desirable" or some such thing. We see the same thing with advanced
>degrees.
>
>Having been involved in these searches I have found that CRMs are
>getting harder to lure without higher salaries or benefits. Don't get
>hung up on the salaries, remember benefits matter. The demand has picked
>up out there in recent years.
>
>What are others thoughts on this? I have seen postings in the 80k range
>for CRM and Master level but fewer salaries are being posted. I am
>calling and emailing many employers to see where offering ranges are.
>
>Raymond K. Cunningham, Jr. CRM, CA
>University of Illinois Foundation
>Urbana IL 61801
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Records Management Program [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
>Behalf Of Charles Childress
>Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 12:47 PM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: [RM] Job posting of interest
>
> > From: John Guthrie <[log in to unmask]>
> > Reply-To: Records Management Program <[log in to unmask]>
> > Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 10:01:55 -0700
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Job posting of interest
> >
> > What this tells me is that the CRM designation and the requirements to
>attain
> > it are not understood by many of the organizations asking for it. This
>is a
> > situation that begs to be rectified, and looks like much more work is
>needed
> > from both ARMA and ICRM to continue to educate organizations and
>agencies.
>
>
>Well said John and I agree totally. Unfortunately, this has been an
>issue
>for many years now with seemingly little progress in many areas of the
>country. Of course regional economics play into the salary ranges but
>they
>still seem either to come up way short or on the low end, for the
>qualifications they would like to have.
>
>It appears that the more well educated organizations and industries,
>where
>RIM is seen as a vital part of operations, are the ones in which
>salaries
>are reasonable. I'm not sure these more well educated organizations are
>doing this because of anything our profession has done, but may be more
>compliance driven to RIM through the various regulatory and legislative
>requirements over recent years.
>
>So the question still remains...How does ARMA, ICRM and we the
>professionals, get us form here to there? I don't really know, but it
>seems
>to me a nation-wide marketing plan might help.
>
>Pass the popcorn please.
>
>Charles
>
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