Mary-

The reasons you cite below are EXACTLY WHY for a year or more every time I
posted or replied to anything about "the Cloud", I always used to refer to
it as "the Ubiquitous Cloud".  I think we watched from the sidelines as
service providers, storage vendors, technologists and users alike spoke
about "the Cloud" for a couple of years and similar to what you're saying
here, none of them were necessarily talking about the same thing.

It's kind of like when we talk about 'vacation'.  For some people, it's an
organized event with lots of planning, air travel. hotel stays... the whole
bit.  For others? It's just a day out of the office and away from work.  As
I've frequently used it as an example before, it's Saxe at his best...
http://goo.gl/8Kvns

Even NIST, who entered the fray in a large part because of the lack of a
clear definition or any standard terminology in 2009 started with this:
http://goo.gl/3VNSO

And in 2011, 16 versions later, issued this:  http://goo.gl/QezZI

"When agencies or companies use this definition," says NIST computer
scientist Peter Mell, "they have a tool to determine the extent to which
the information technology implementations they are considering meet the
cloud characteristics and models. This is important because by adopting an
authentic cloud, they are more likely to reap the promised benefits of
cloud—cost savings, energy savings, rapid deployment and customer
empowerment. And matching an implementation to the cloud definition can
assist in evaluating the security properties of the cloud."

Much of this confusion is why the spread of comments and opinions in this
thread all have a modicum of truth and accuracy to them.  And as much as I
hate the saying, when it comes to "the Cloud"... It Is What It Is.

Larry
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On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 7:28 AM, Hilliard, Mary <[log in to unmask]>wrote:

> When I read conversations about "the cloud", it reminds me of other
> discussions about topics which are so general (education, the economy,
> etc.) that people can agree or disagree and yet no one is talking about the
> same thing.  The cloud may be a virtualization strategy that offers an
> organization better accessibility to data from numerous locations but is
> still private and is very closely monitored and protected or it may be the
> public cloud which does provide some affordances, but also some additional
> hazards which must be carefully weighed.  By using such a general term,
> there is little way to know what scenarios are being discussed by the
> various players.
>
> I believe these conversations are good, but do caution that it might be
> useful to clarify a bit more as we discuss.
>
> Mary Hilliard, CRM
>



-- 
*Lawrence J. Medina
Danville, CA
RIM Professional since 1972*

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