Chris, I agree as long as number 4 is ...'or until reclassified.' I
personally appreciate the finality of the term Permanent. It conveys the
idea that this record shall not be destroyed for any reason, even though we
in the RM function know that the classification is conditional. The new
popular use of the term LOC (life of company) is politically correct but
just seems to lack the authority of Permanent. I expect it will go the way
of the term 'archival' in reference to microfilm life expectancy, whether
we approve or not.

This is my second post in years and I failed to introduce myself in the
first. I've posted to this list starting @1996 representing DeKalb College
(now Georgia Perimeter College). Later I posted while working for OHM
Nuclear Remediation Corporation and after that PricewaterhouseCoopers. I am
currently seeking a new challenge. In the same vein as the topic of my
response; this is the PC way of saying I've recently been laid off.

The upside is that I again have time to read and appreciate this forum.

Happy Friday folks.

Doug Johnson
Atlanta, GA



On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Chris Flynn <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Glen,
> Not to beat a dead horse, but you are wrong.
> Permanent means forever.
>
> regardless of your individual view, love springs eternal, and when an
> Archivist determines that a record has permanent value the obligation is
> retain that record forever. Forever means until the end of time.
>
> The end of time can be met by any number of factors.
> 1) the world could end
> 2) Pandemic wipes us all out
> 3) your company could bankrupt and no successor takes on the records
> 4)......
>
> Buck up we migrate permanent records to increasing stable formats
> throughout there life.
>
> Chris Flynn
> P.S. Don't make me call you
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 10:08 PM, Glenn Sanders <[log in to unmask]
> >wrote:
>
> > I've sounded off before on why I think it's ridiculous to have a
> retention
> > period called 'permanent'. My argument is based on two factors:
> >
> > 1. 'Permanent' is a lazy way out of really thinking through what you need
> > or mean
> >
> > 2. In 4.5 billion years or so the Sun goes red dwarf and we all get
> fried.
> >
> > It now turns out my second factor is wrong. The Sun doesn't just flick a
> > switch and change overnight, it's a gradual process, exacerbated by our
> > capacity to screw up the environment. A recent report suggests we don't
> > have 4.5 billion years, we may have as few as 1.7 billion.
> >
> >
> >
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/09/20/habitable_zone_study_determines_earths_lifetime_exoplanet_intelligence_candidates/
> >
> > At least it puts a shorter limit on how long we'll have to keep migrating
> > stuff as systems become obsolete over time, Adjust your business case
> > costings accordingly.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Glenn
> >
> > Glenn Sanders
> > [log in to unmask]
> > Australia
> > 0467 740 161 (new mobile number)
> > These views are mine alone. They may or may not be those of any
> > previous or present employers or clients. I don't know. If I'd asked and
> > they'd agreed, I would have signed it "Harry Peck and Co and Glenn".
> > Or whatever. But I haven't, so I didn't.
> >
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