On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 11:31 AM, Roach, Bill <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> >> Thanks for the clarification. I agree, ""..... technology" is the
> tools, means, processes, and technology necessary for carrying out
> business...... I'd respectfully submit to you that using a spoon is not
> business...<<
>

Depends on how deep you've gotten yourself in... many times, a spoon may be
the only tool you'd be abl eto use to dig youself out of a situation you've
gotten into in the "business at hand".


> Based on the definition above, neither is the depth finder I use on my
> boat, the FitBit folks wear on their wrist, or the pacemakers used to make
> a ticker tock.  A spoon is an example of technology as much as is Yammer.
> The word technology has been around since the 1600's and is based on a
> Greek word that is much older than that.
>
>  - The definition of technology is science or knowledge put into practical
> use to solve problems or invent useful tools.
>

Agreed that few considered the stick a chimp used to stick into a log to
extract ants to eat 'a technology', but a thought process had to be
employed to determine that stick would fit into that hole and it would be
interesting enough to those ants to grab onto it and allow themselves to be
extracted to end up become a food source.

As for one of the initial comments about it "being free"... NOTHING
provided for no direct cost on the interwebs is "free".  You're giving up
something when you use it, which is why (as Terra said) many of us in
Federal settings aren't allowed to use certain social media 'tools' on our
Fed based systems.

They extract info from users to determine your usage patterns in the name
of 'improving the useability of their tools'... but they're providing the
data they extract/harvest to someone and it provides a revenue source to
someone somewhere down the line.  If it didn't, it wouldn't exist.  I don't
think many people here are so dense they don't "get that".

For those concerned about the archived content of what gets shared here...
if we jump ship from UFL, believe me, we lose all the history... unless
someone wants to try to suck it off of there servers and host it somewhere
else.

If the list as it exists now 'morphs' to some other service/platform...
capture my email at the base of this message, that's where you an find me.

and as Peter mentioned, the Yahoo Group is kept alive... every time they
contact me and ask "Do you want to renew this group and its credentials", I
say yes, until someone says let's get rid of it, or I'm not around to
answer that question.

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/recmgmt_ot/info   there's only been one
post in 2015; and since 2009, it's been a Ghost Town pretty much... but
that's because more <r@p has been allowed to be discussed here than the old
guys who would prefer to tell you "Get Off of MY LAWN" would allow to be
here.

-- 
Larry
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