I agree entirely with Steve Whitaker. I place a great deal of value on the work that Peter Kurilecz has done on behalf of all of us. For anyone to believe that his good deeds are deserving of criticism because he might not be willing to do more is foolish. As for the author of the criticism, well, we KNOW what he's all about and I'm sure we will all consider the "source". I'll refrain from further comment, since it might be considered to be a "flame"...... Peter, thanks for all that you do. I know that if I want MORE information, that I'm perfectly capable of doing additional resarch on my own. Douglas P. Allen, CRM, CDIA+ -----Original Message----- From: Records Management Program [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Steven Whitaker Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 3:22 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: How to call to account a professional records manager You do keyword searches on the internet. It is not that complex...; elementary school children do it all the time. Leave Peter alone...; his RIM principles and adherence to ICRM ethics are fine. Your criticisms of the RIM profession are puzzling. What do you hope to accomplish? If you want to attack something or somebody...; go find a library...; perhaps somewhere up in the new england area. Best regards, Steve Steven D. Whitaker, CRM Records Systems Manager; City of Reno >>> [log in to unmask] 03/16/05 12:04PM >>> Peter Kurilecz CRM CA should be called to account for the uncooperative response with respect to archives and records in the news compiled from sources like newspapers. Peter Kurilecz claimed the information is available already. But then Peter Kurilecz would not provide the information up front directly. So much for the professional principles of records managers in practice. That is the case with many records management professionals. In practice many records management professionals do not meet the standards set by the profession. Many are unwilling to look at shortcomings. The attempts at squelching exchanges about the shortcomings are even made by leadership of records management professional groups instead of promoting and instigating the examination of the important profession that it is truly. The original enquiry stands as how is records and archives in the news compiled?... What keywords, terms, descriptors are used in what searching mechanisms?... But the partial response so far is indirect and defiant. And that is what many clients, customers experience at the hands of many people who claim to be records management professionals in actual practice. The only adversarial reason for claiming the proprietary argument is the disaffection for the source of the enquiry. Professionals should put aside the superficial and maintain their standards. Ironically, Peter Kurilecz represents the communications office of a professional certification group the Institute of Certified Records Managers as public relations coordinator, scroll down toward the end at http://www.icrm.org/board.htm#Public How accountable do you hold yourself when your clients, customers critique how you make available the records, the information you manage?... Are you closed to feedback or open?... Do you put into practice what you enunciate as your mission, professional principles? A note. I am in critiquing, a fan, an aficionado of the work and of the writings of Peter Kurilecz ! List archives at http://lists.ufl.edu/archives/recmgmt-l.html Contact [log in to unmask] for assistance List archives at http://lists.ufl.edu/archives/recmgmt-l.html Contact [log in to unmask] for assistance List archives at http://lists.ufl.edu/archives/recmgmt-l.html Contact [log in to unmask] for assistance