Steve, Although I value my "Political Science" degree, having seen the graduates of what was Dr. Mark Langemo's program at the University of North Dakota, I wouldn't sell the education side too short. Graduates of that program have been able to leverage their education credentials and have become highly productive in a fairly brief period of time. However, for an "old guy" like me, with a busy travel schedule, I prefer to work on certification programs than on additional, formal education. Douglas P. Allen, CRM, CDIA+ List archives at http://lists.ufl.edu/archives/recmgmt-l.html Contact [log in to unmask] for assistance