Given this OT topic, I think that it may be "appropriate" to conduct a scouting effort sometime in August in San Antonio just to ensure that a "proper recommendation" can be given regarding the best spots available to us for a listserv happy hour. Now, I rarely "volunteer" for such duty, but if such a trip is deemed to be necessary and helpful, I would of course...step forward to be ONE of those involved in such a scouting trip! Would there be any additional volunteers on the listserv available? Douglas P. Allen, CRM, CDIA+ List archives at http://lists.ufl.edu/archives/recmgmt-l.html Contact [log in to unmask] for assistance