Patrick writes: "And maybe another approach is to work your way up the chain of command in your own organization first before tossing a grenade at the CEO." While I am all for committing one career limiting move per week, I think grenade tossing at the CEO is probably not highly advisable. I would though leverage the recent changes to the Federal electronic discovery rules as a way to meet with both your legal and your information technology peers. The rule changes have given my program the momentum and the funding that it has lacked up until this time. Suddenly I am buying an email archiving product, engaging a consultant, and have been given the additional resources to actually create and implement the program I had been prepared to design when I came here 4 1/2 years ago. (Records folks are nothing if not tenacious). However, I may have an advantage - I am a member of our legal team. I report directly to the in-house litigation & compliance counsel. I am involved in all our litigations and direct all document discoveries, working directly with outside counsel. I see my IT peers every day. I work for a company that does not have barriers or silos. Sounds a bit like a fairy tale. I keep thinking about the thread from a few days back with the new person asking what the records manager did for the company. You know, sometimes I think the answer is keep your a** out of the fire. Personally I have a ton of fun with my job. RM is nothing if it is not an adventure! Rock on! Sharon Burnett Seattle WA List archives at http://lists.ufl.edu/archives/recmgmt-l.html Contact [log in to unmask] for assistance