Well Bill might be right (he seems to be getting brighter, I wonder what is casuing that). The burden of any orgainzation is due diligence. If you are a landlord, you put locks on the doors, bars on the windows and home security system in, and then your tenants get the house broken into is it your fault? The answer is maybe,if it turns out to be yes get a better lawyer. I think you see my point. Pay for the service you want. Keeping things in house might or might not provide better security etc. Keep in mind that it also exposes the records to those most interested in their contents. At least with the outside vendor you have the strong potential for a clear audit trail. Having said that I like the onsite control keep itin the hands of the organization. Fishin loors: we use dupont loors Both Barrels: flock shooting is the the most economical method. Punt guns work good too. Bags: Best used for snipe huntin. Hey Bill ya wanna hold the bag? Chris Flynn >From: "Roach, Bill" <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: Records Management Program <[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: RAINdrip: The sad truth about tape management by storage >providers >Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 16:19:53 -0500 > > >>More to the point, who has to pay the fines (if there are any), suffer >the consequences of bad press, and penalties for providing credit >checks for a year, when it happens?<< > >Herein lies my point. It is the organization who is held accountable, >not the service provider. And it's not just IM. I recall numerous >RAINdrops where the responsible party was a contractor (other than IM) >who had the data on a laptop or other device. It is reality that >matters and the reality is that the organization compromised is the one >held responsible, not the organization that does the compromising. Want >proof, how many articles have you seen blaming TJMaxx for the loss of >credit card information that lead to the fraud in Florida. Folks are >screaming for their heads. It cannot be the fault of the poor, lost >souls who hacked into the system, stole the data and perpetrated the >fraud. > > >>C'mon Bill... I know you fish... now tell me, do you put bait on a >lure to make sure you get a bite?<< > >Actually I do. For salmon I use WD-40, for walleye I use Dr. Juice. >http://www.rd.com/content/fishing-solutions/ >http://www.bluefox.com/products/dr_juice_scents.php > > >>so do you fire both barrels of a double barrel shotgun to make the >pattern wide enough to make sure you knock down a bird in flight?<< > >Only if there are two birds. > > >>TWO BAGS<< > >I am not going there...ever. > >Bill R >----------------------------------------- > >This message may contain confidential information. If you are not >the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and >delete this email from your system. > >List archives at http://lists.ufl.edu/archives/recmgmt-l.html >Contact [log in to unmask] for assistance _________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE Web site, company branded e-mail and more from Microsoft Office Live! http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/ List archives at http://lists.ufl.edu/archives/recmgmt-l.html Contact [log in to unmask] for assistance